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Was Dr. Tiller a hero or a murderer for hire? With his medical expertise and a price on his head, why didn't he choose another avenue in his medical profession?

Tiller dared his opposition and paid with his life. What was his continued motivation for abortion? Why was he so dedicated to that particular field of medicine?

My personal opinion is that Tiller's decision was based on the advantages compared to disadvantages in the medical field. Money being the all powerful indicator with less or no lawsuits resulting from his chosen profession. I'm allowing I could be wrong, but considering the options he had at his disposal for a wealthy lifestyle, I just find it strange that he would continue risking his life and leaving his family he loved in such a so-called dedication to women's rights. I think he could have done much more good taking a different path.

Comments?

Women need abortions.

If the providers can be intimidated into shutting down......how will women get abortions?

I don't know Tiller's motivations, but he did provide an essential service in the face of grave danger......that's all that counts.

If you shut down your abortion clinic out of fear.......the terrorists have won.

Pax!

Do you think Tiller saw it coming? I mean, right there in his church a man approaching him, and a head shot no less. The shooter knew Tiller was wearing body armor. Had Tiller changed medical profession he wouldn't be dead. His family can be proud as punch that he served women their rights but he's still dead. That's what his family and friends don't seem to understand.

A planned attack. Who will now step in to go the distance? Another home-grown terrorist is on the horizon just waiting for the opportunity to go "bang-bang". The terrorist threat did not end with Tiller. You know that, don't you? All the anti-abortionists TV evangelicals are still preaching "good riddance" to Tiller. They salavate at the thought of blood on their hands, they're proud of their fellow "Christians" who perform such a perfect act in order to save another fetus. Tiller is just another notch on their bible-belt Right Wing extremism.

Oh, and here I thought that vandalism was illegal. Most people are arrested for breaking and entering a business or home. Most people are jailed for continuous acts of vandalism. Police and FBI were called each time the Right Wing idiot played the servant of God. And most people who know they are more than likely to be vandalized or attacked again start thinking of self defense methods. When police and FBI can't or won't do anything, and the staff in "reproductive clinics" don't even know how to physically take down a suspect, what are we to think? For pete's sake, the nurse at the clinic was running back and forth and trying to get the shooters tag number. Why didn't she at least use pepper spray on the idiot? Why didn't she disable him in some way? All they can think of is to call the FBI?

You seem a little more shrill today than usual, Ros.

Forget to take your meds?

Naa, just wondering why people involved in such a risky busness do not take precautions.

Another question: Who considered the life of Tiller less, the women who knew the consequesnces(Tiller might be killed), or the shooter who killed him?

"If the providers can be intimidated into shutting down, how will women get abortions?"

Well, I suppose they can buy a kit and spend less time, money and aggrevation than having to pretend they didn't do it at a clinic. If women want to abort then maybe its time they took responsibility and do it themselves. Maybe we'll soon see abortion kits on the pharmacy shelves. Or.. I suppose a pill would be satisfactory in such circumstances. But hey, whatever happened to the morning-after pill?

The morning after pill is no good if it's a couple days later.



Do it themselves? I thought we had progressed beyond the coat-hanger mentality.

I guess you got left behind.

Oh, that figures.

Now take those meds.

Pax!

Coat hangers? That was ages ago. Today there is preventative measures but women and men don't seem to be interested in anything but causing trouble for everyone else.

If my underage daughter were to become pregnant, I'd kick her out on her own. She would have to go to the streets unless her sexual partner decided it his responsibility to care for her welfare. I'd not put up with her sniveling, whinning, and early "birth-pangs". And if she decided to abort, I'd disown her forever. I figure she was showing herself grown-up enough to get knocked up, and out of wedlock, and so as an adult she should be responsible for herself and the little bastard should she desire to keep it. I certainly wouldn't take the little bastard to raise. Maybe the city council would take it into their welfare system as they were the ones who volunteered for that government programing to brainwash society.

You're an idiot.

And you're an enabler.

If you want to relieve society of this problem of abortion and reproductive rights, then start promoting preventitive measures. Vasectomies for males and tubals for women and teenage girls. Your idea is that "they're gonna have sex" as a normal part of their being, but you don't seem to allow for any consequence. Society doesn't need the problem of children not its own, whose parents refuse to take responsibility for the welfare of those little mouths to feed, put them through school and raise them with senseability. Your answer is abortion. And that shows your willingliness to foster the problem onto others who don't want it or need it.

btw, both preventive measures are reversable and pose no health risk.

Ros, assuming it would be the first time your daughter got pregnant and you tried to provide her with support and assistance by giving her a place to live, eat, etc. instead of kicking her out on the street -- that would not be enabling, that would be compassion.

Now, if she did it again because she wanted to abuse your compassionate response, then that might be enabling.

You are a hard and angry woman, Ros.

I think Roselyn was joking. No loving parent would kick their kid out like that or disown them. Right Roselyn?

There is absolutely nothing in this world my parents or sisters (I don't have a daughter) could do that would make me disown them. I love them. Isn't that what a family does? Loves and supports each other, through the good and the bad?

I don't understand parents who spend nearly two decades caring for a child only to kick them out because of a mistake. Especdially when the mistake is something so understandable.

There is something seriously wrong if a doctor is murdered for performing their profession. Tiller needs no more reason to perform abortions than feeling like it.

O FARTS! After making MY rules clear and she then abused ME by getting herself knocked-up by some weasel dickhead with sperm for brains, she would not deserve compassion. Just how much love did she show me? How much respect and consideration did she give ME? I wasn't raising her to be a whore to carry snotty little bastards around on her hips all day, with government funding. I was raising her to be a responsible woman. Now just look at her. She's a useless piece of trash.

btw, in this episode she got knocked-up at school, in her co-ed gym class, behind the lockers no less. Didn't even think to take a shower. And she won't be allowed to reach tenth grade. Well, I told her where she could go alright, she can trick and treat on down to hookers alley. That's all she's good for now. Wasted life, dumb-ass kid. There goes her college education. Maybe her sperm donor will figure something out for her. I'm done with her.

That's true enough. But, doctors have been killed for many reasons less popular than abortions.

Well, you may be right. Tiller "feeling like it" is one reason for his continued risk taking. His daughters supposedly said - "but if you don't do it who will?" Heck, there are lots of doctors giving abortions. More than a few are performing late term abortions where the baby is at half birthed through, and then its vital signs extinquished. Then, from what I hear, the baby's parts are sold to other factory outlets. Arms, legs, heart, eyes, whatever. Abortion is a big time "for profit" business, and a business, evidently, worth fighting for. Instead of the woman paying the doctor, why do they not insist the doctor pay them for the body parts? Women are such idiots sometimes. I mean, if they are going to have an abortion, shouldn't they investigate where and to whom those body parts will be sold? So, the woman could set a price on the head of her "fetus" so to speak, and let the highest bidder have the spoils. That at least sounds like a reasonable business deal. The way it is now, the woman gets nothing out of the process but a drain on her bank account. That is, IF she is actually paying and her abortion is not government funded.

What do you think Manya? Should women begin thinking of abortion as a business opportunity?

This is just the pits of ridiculous. Some people around here and there are portraying females, especially teens, as nothing more than sex starved maniacs who have nothing better to do with their legs than spread them WIDE for a sperm donor. What the hell is wrong with these people? Have they no shame? No control over their children? Over themselves? It's just plain disgusting how some people think of their children as sex machines, no brains just genitals aflame. One would thinik that these so-called parents would talk about their children as having some sort of intelligence, higher grade level, planning for careers and be proud of those accomplishments. But oh no, they are pompously proud that their children are sex cadets, and pregnancy is to be aborted. These proud parents of their underaged sex maniacs need to be jailed for neglect. Neglecting to teach their children that there is other more important things in life, such as learning to survive without their sexually deviant and weird parents.