|
View unanswered posts | View active topics
| Welcome |
|
|
Welcome to XnForums
You are currently viewing our boards as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content, and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple, and absolutely free, so please, join our community today! |
|
Page 1 of 1
|
[ 8 posts ] |
|
| Author |
Message |
|
Roselyn
|
Post subject: Tea Party? Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:06 am |
|
Joined: Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:57 am Posts: 1556
|
Anyone think this "Revolution" is nothing more than a gimmick of the Right Wing[Repugnuts]? Pushing for less government in their business, is their cover for their agenda of religious Right Wing politics in government? Do we have reason NOT to trust these "Revolutionaries"? Who knows, with all their talking heads (Limpbaugh, Hannity, Coulter and others), they might even get brave enough to carry and use arms against "da gubernut". Which should play well on the teli. Comments??
|
|
|
Top |
|
 |
|
fritz
|
Post subject: Re: Tea Party? Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 1:41 pm |
|
Joined: Sun Aug 03, 2008 6:49 am Posts: 490
|
|
The White House is reacting to the day of revolting right-wingers in a particularly appropriate way:
QUESTION: Thanks, Robert. Tomorrow is tax day and a number of conservative groups are organizing these so called "tea parties" across the country; there are going to be grassroots uprising revolts against the administration's policies so far. Is the President aware that these are going on and do you have any reaction to this?
ROBERT GIBBS: I don't know if the President is aware of the events. I think the President will use tomorrow as a day to have an event here at the White House to signal the important steps in the economic recovery and reinvestment plan that cut taxes for 95 percent of working families in America, just as the President proposed doing; cuts in taxes and tax credits for the creation of clean energy jobs.
We'll use tomorrow to highlight individual and instances in families that have seen their taxes cut and I think America can be -- Americans will see more money in their pockets as a direct result of the Making Work Pay tax cut that the President both campaigned on and passed through Congress.
First of all, the reporter who asked the question needs to be schooled on what constitutes a "grassroots uprising revolt." When the organizing principals are political insiders like Dick Armey and Ari Fleischer, and the PR is run by Fox News, it is beyond absurd to describe it as grassroots. More to the point, though, it's nice to see that President Obama is not devoting much attention to this. The Tea Baggers can throw their pity party in the vast wasteland of their imaginations.
Just for fun...Keith Olbermann has put together a brilliant montage that shows just how hard Fox has been working to make these events successful.
|
|
|
Top |
|
 |
|
fritz
|
Post subject: Re: Tea Party? Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 1:43 pm |
|
Joined: Sun Aug 03, 2008 6:49 am Posts: 490
|
And this...oops...pushed submit before I hit the copy. 
Last edited by fritz on Wed Apr 15, 2009 1:45 pm, edited 1 time in total.
|
|
|
Top |
|
 |
|
fritz
|
Post subject: Re: Tea Party? Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 1:44 pm |
|
Joined: Sun Aug 03, 2008 6:49 am Posts: 490
|
|
And this.
Grandstanding over the latest fake outrage is what republicans have proven time and time they do best. And of course, there is usually a conflict between reality and the very thing(s) they are protesting. With taxes, there have been a lot of counter frames, but the reality of it is, even though views of paying income tax is at the highest level since the 1950’s, taxes pay for a helluva lot of stuff that We the People take for granted.
Sure, it would be better (much better) if we could pay less or if we could get better and more comprehensive health care coverage or they weren’t wasted or that there weren’t so many loopholes for the $100 billion in annual lost revenue from tax shelters.
* clammyc's diary :: :: *
But one of the best ways to counter this ridiculous show of hypocrisy and sour grapes is to start pushing the discussion of taxes into a direction of the services that we receive and take advantage of every day – and frankly, take for granted. These services that would (1) likely cost a whole lot more if they were privatized, and in a number of instances (2) would be poorer service if provided in a privatized manner.
Let’s start with some of the basics – firefighters, first responders and police. If one of the teabaggers’ house was on fire, would they let it burn because of the "waste" of their money going to pay for firefighters? Or if their house was broken into, would they be ok with the police not investigating it? What about on 9/11 – would it have been better if the NYPD or the FDNY didn’t save all of the people in the Towers before they fell?
How about the military? Talk about not supporting the troops. How will we fight all of the wars that the republicans wanted (and want) us to fight? Or take the events from this past week – who would have rescued Captain Phillips from the Somali pirates if our taxes didn’t pay to train the Navy SEALS? Is national security no longer something that the teabaggers are interested in?
Should there be no air travel, since air traffic controllers are public employees, paid with our tax dollars? And should there be no mail delivery, since the US Postal Service is also paid for by our tax dollars (and even with the increasing cost of postage, it is still way better than private courier)? And public schools – which I am sure that many of these teabaggers send their children to as private schools are fairly costly. Should our children continue to fall further and further behind other countries in terms of education?
Take it to the most local level too. Taxes pay for garbage collection, paving of roads, snow removal, salting the roads when they ice over, building and repairing bridges, tunnels and in many instances, public transit. Will the teabaggers never leave their houses to travel on these bridges, roads and tunnels? Will they let their garbage pile up for weeks, months or years?
What about something as basic as food safety? Making sure that food isn’t poisoned with hazardous chemicals and is prepared according to basic standards? How about the FDIC insuring deposits of our hard earned money? Will the teabaggers be happy losing their savings if their bank goes under? What about cleaning up when the private companies spill hazardous waste – take the Exxon spill, the oil spills after hurricane Katrina, train crashes that release toxic chlorine gas (or other gas) into the air. How about parks, prisons, the National Guard, hospitals, the Federal or State court systems and other services that we take for granted?
I had a discussion with someone recently who made a very good point – he said this: Does paying taxes suck? Yeah, it does. But paying for cars sucks, too. Paying for food sucks, too. Paying rent sucks. But we do all those things and just take it. Why is it when we get a better deal from the government -- which has policies that make all those things cheaper, BTW -- we complain about it?
A very good point, if you ask me. And a very good way to turn this tax nonsense on its head to talk about it in terms of what we get for a pretty reasonable amount of money – certainly as compared to all of the other things that we also have to pay for.
These hypocritical teabaggers should give up everything that they get if they don’t want to pay taxes. No firefighters. No mail. No garbage collection. No police, schools, road repairs or snow removal. Let’s see how long it takes before they start whining about that too.
|
|
|
Top |
|
 |
|
The Real Logos
|
Post subject: Re: Tea Party? Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:05 pm |
|
Joined: Sun Aug 03, 2008 9:44 am Posts: 1361 Location: Member #240 in the Foothills of the Spice-laden Mountains.
|
These tea baggers are the dregs of our society--ignorant, uneducated and xenophobically hateful. Let them rant......they are funny. They lost the election and they should begin to face reality and become part of the solution rather than the problem. 
_________________ The fate of the country does not depend on how you vote. The worst man is as strong as the best at that game.....it depends instead on what kind of man you drop from your chamber into the street every morning. -- Henry David Thoreau
|
|
|
Top |
|
 |
|
Roselyn
|
Post subject: Re: Tea Party? Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 5:46 am |
|
Joined: Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:57 am Posts: 1556
|
ok, so I heard one of the Tea Baggers say their tax protest was against funding of the homosexual and immigration issues, and that government is wasting their (Tea Bagger) money on these people. They should provide their own health care etc. The Tea Baggers want to "get back to how things use to be in this country". (Has a biblical ring to it. And where were their Jesus signs anyway?) Watching the news reports on the Tea Baggers, did you happen to see any black people or their protesting against Obama's cutting taxes for people making less than 250,000 per year? "Let them rant.....they are funny". You mean like a few of them shown packing side arms? Why would a simple tax protest influence people to carry open weapons, and would you trust them not to use them? So, how did the Tea Baggers present themselves? As idiots who wanted a show of force against the government? And with open weapons, why were they not arrested as "suspects" in Bush's homeland security program? And just because they might have a license to carry, does that mean they are not trigger happy crazies? With all the killings by gun use this past few weeks I really don't think "the guvment" should have provided easy prey for the Tea Baggers. Wouldn't any other group have been checked for firearms? Oh, and Fox's Cuvuto reported over 55,000 people were Tea Baggers. Obermann provided the correction to that exaggeration at less than 5000. Fox will probably have the numbers increased over a million by this days end.
|
|
|
Top |
|
 |
|
The Real Logos
|
Post subject: Re: Tea Party? Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:51 am |
|
Joined: Sun Aug 03, 2008 9:44 am Posts: 1361 Location: Member #240 in the Foothills of the Spice-laden Mountains.
|
I think they represent the Republican Party perfectly. A FESTIVAL of foil-hatters, rednecks, gap-toothed hillbillies, FundaGelicals, gun-nuts, KKK, Christian Identity, Skinheads, survivalists, woman-haters, poor-haters, education-haters, Obama-haters.......ah, the perfect storm......the perfect lynch mob. "Hang them," they cry. "Hang all those who read books and think and have a regular dentist!!!" Such perfection does my heart good. 
_________________ The fate of the country does not depend on how you vote. The worst man is as strong as the best at that game.....it depends instead on what kind of man you drop from your chamber into the street every morning. -- Henry David Thoreau
|
|
|
Top |
|
 |
|
Roselyn
|
Post subject: Re: Tea Party? Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:58 am |
|
Joined: Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:57 am Posts: 1556
|
Just as I predicted. One of the talking heads for the Right, Tom Delay, was on Hardball and said that MILLIONS turned out for the Tea Party. Then he supported, in his Right Wing double-speak, Texas sedition from the U.S., because Texas has a thing about lower taxes. What a complete bafoon this man is. He speaks as if for all Texans and all Americans. pssst... I think he's on something other than a healthy diet. ( He was sluring his speech and looked kinda razzled, but probably because Chris Matthews didn't let him control the interview.) But then the whole Right Wing party isn't pushing to get 570 tons of cocaine out of the U.S. each year are they? Tom said every business person should move their [b]business[b] to Texas, under the protection of the sucsessionist state party, that is.  Evidently according to lil Tom, things are better in Texas than anywhere else in the U.S. humm... And.. waht about that Glen Beck and his cowboy hat and cow-poking? 
|
|
|
Top |
|
 |
|
Page 1 of 1
|
[ 8 posts ] |
|
Who is online |
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests |
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot post attachments in this forum
|
|
|