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Here are my thoughts on Obama's speech today. He needs to put his ACTIONS where his mouth is. He needs to make public the level of torture carried on by this nation's highest officials in charge, and publically repent of it on behalf of Bush, Co., and seek the forgiveness of those tortured and of the families of those killed. Instead, he continues to condone their actions by his total LACK of transparency ... as evidenced by The Detainee Photographic Records Protection Act of 2009, a recent bill introduced by Linsdey Graham and Joseph Leiberman (that alone should tell you something HUGE), whose sole purpose is to suppress photos proving that gross human rights violations were committed by elected and appointed leadership in the top levels of our government and military. READ ARTICLE HERE.

Until he at least acknowledges this TRUTH (which, btw, he made a big point to say he came to Egypt to speak), he hasn't one iota of moral authority upon which to stand and lecture ANYone on ANYthing.

He said he's telling the truth as best he can.

That's a profound statement and must be considered carefully.

He did tell more of the truth than has ever before been spoken by a Western leader.

Had he told the whole truth he would be finished now.

He speaks for all the people......not you and me.

Darn!

good points, Logos ... but I'm still disappointed that those responsible for torture (clearly war crimes) are NOT being brought to justice because some have deemd that politically it's too dangerous. It is that kind of hypocrisy that spurs on greater hatred and loathing for Americans and sends the message that we're more concerned about sounding right than doing right.

Yes, I agree that his words were more truthful than a lot of presidents before him -- admitting how we took down a democratically elected Iranian government in the fifties ... that Iraq was a "war of choice" etc. -- but this torture thing really has my Irish up. I wonder why the heck it isn't bothering more Americans? (A poll just came out showing that a little less than half of Americans think torture "might be warranted sometimes"! Sickening.)

Naomi

I don't know.

The stuff you're talking about doesn't register strongly with me because I'm grieving the fact that the Palestinian problem has no solution......the Zionists will just keep stalling and NO American president has the power to change that.

So, in actual effect......nothing can change. Nothing WILL change.

That's the worst part of it all.

Pax!

I agree. And it's out in the open and should be dealt with.

Logos, Israel has the power to change what the Right Wing doesn't want changed. Thus the solution for both Palestinians and Israeli's is to show the Right Wing Klan who's boss. The Fundamentalists support Israel for one reason only, they want the land. And if Israel continues to befriend the Right, then Israel will eventually not be recognized as a Jewish state. The Fundamentalists will continue propagandizing for war until Israel has no choice but to join in the fight, on a big time basis. The Fundamentalists want the Muslims, the Russians, the Syrians, or whoever else to join in a war to destroy Israel and its political leadership. When that happens, as they hope it will, and as they plan and plot their thieft of Jewish identity, then the Fundamentalists will think they can takeover all the middle east and enthusiastically beat their chests boasting "we are Israel now!"

Or, the Fundamentalists think they can cozy-up to Israel enough to get "the Jews" to recognize Jesus and from there it's a mere two step process constructing a New Jerusalem for Jesus. The idol will be in place and the Right Wing will have effectively slain the enemies of Jesus at his feet.

I wouldn't put nothin past these conieving devils in their wickedness. For they so luv the Jews ..

People who torture animals will torture humans. People who are willing to torture Muslims are willing to torture you for not hating Muslims. The same rule applied in the 60's South. They haven't evolved out of their deep hatred and deadly belief that "colored" is not enough human.

People who love to torture are addicted to Fox News, Rush Limpbaugh, racist ideology, camoflauge, guns, and large knives and wilderness hide-outs. (I think I heard this somewhere before. .. but I've found it to be true). They love to hunt and kill deer and pouch black bear, (they sell the inards to dealers somewhere), they like to drink moonshine whiskey and remenise about the good ol days of the Ku Klux Klan.

They love the taste of wild game. These people are wired for war and death. They believe that a woman who wears a skirt above her knees is just asking for "it". Both men and women believe this, a little woman's place is beside her husband in agreement of what he says.

Church is white-power, and Jesus assholes. They watch an all white Israel on TV. The world will be dominated by their white power reconstructionist/dominionist ideology. They code their language in snippets. The Klan is active and members in varied churches make their pilgrimage to Israel for a visit to stare at the Jews, smile, and pretend to love Isrul. Church trips are a popular passtime. Some of the stories they come back with are really way out, but they claim as biblical.

They gather at campsites to spin their hate, their guns always at the ready. "that sum-bitch comes round here, I'll shoot him".

Oh, and I heard today that it's now legal for Right Wing conservatives to carry their guns into resturants and bars and even churches they attend on Sunday.

What will the Right Wing legislaturer's think of next. "No Coloreds Allowed". ??

But then Logos would say, "Ros, you just running off at the mouth."

I agree HH. Seems Obama has taken a few steps forward and more than a few steps back. Why is he catering to the Bushites? Maybe a foreign reporter will disclose the photo's. Else we'll never see the coverup made.

Telling the truth as best he can? Sorry, that's not good enough. Remember his campaign speaches where he said he'd hold responsible those who had committed crimes against innocent people? Now he doesn't feel it to be to the best interest of the United States citizens? More like he's got to cover-up the guilty and treasonous affair. Fifty or sixty years from now, it'll come back to haught his administration in its legacy. Right now his decision of non disclosure is keeping Bush's name from being recognized legally as a war criminal. Hitler did nothing that Bush and Cheney have not done. And the American citizenry are positioned just as the German citizenry were in those days. People years from now will be asking the same questions: Didn't you know? Why didn't American people do something? How could they allow Bush to invade and kill based on his lies? Where were those WMD? Where was the threat from Saddam?

Americans have played their righteous act in accusations against the German people for 60+ years. America set-up the court to judge the Germans. Now America is being judged the same way, through its citizens. I don't know about how anyone ele thinks, but I plead my case as not guilty. I want Bush's head to role, so to speak. He deserves prison for his war crimes. Although I'd prefer the death penalty in his case. Afterall, he did declare: "I'm the decider" in all his constructing and orchestrating his war his way.