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 Post subject: Darwin-loving museum shooter hates Bible, Christians
PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:27 am 
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Darwin-loving museum shooter hates Bible, Christians
Suspect in death of security guard defies easy stereotyping
Posted: June 11, 2009
11:45 pm Eastern

By Bob Unruh
© 2009 WorldNetDaily


James von Brunn

James von Brunn, the man who allegedly shot and killed a guard at the Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, D.C., was a Darwin-lover who hated the Bible and Christians, and defies media efforts to classify him as a stereotypical "right-winger," according to report.

The Moonbattery blog revealed von Brunn advocated the socialist policies espoused by Adolf Hitler and used Darwinian theory to support his anti-Semitism.

And in statements that later were stripped from an anti-religion website, he wrote, "The Big Lie technique, employed by Paul to create the CHRISTIAN RELIGION, also was used to create the HOLOCAUST RELIGION … CHRISTIANITY AND THE HOLOCAUST are HOAXES."

The blog had an answer to how to classify von Brunn, who remains hospitalized after being shot while attacking and shooting a guard at the museum: "If it barks like a moonbat, it's a moonbat."





Von Brunn's diatribe on religion, according to the website, included:

"The New Testament was written in Greek. Paul – who believed the World was flat, that Joshua made the sun stand still, and Jehovah spoke from a burning bush – wrote one-third of it, perhaps more. The events described in the 24 Books are often contradictory, fail the time-line, defy both archaeology's and nature's immutable laws, and are suicidal if practiced. Nevertheless, the shamans bought it, taught it, and the illiterate public was coerced, brainwashed, threatened, tortured, murdered, and enthralled. … The Gospels profess that only Christians may enter Yahweh's Kingdom of Heaven. To qualify, among other demands, Christians must LOVE THEIR ENEMIES (Jews); give away their personal belongings; eschew knowledge; judge not, despise nature, abandon earthly pleasures, acknowledge that all YHWH's children are equal; and above all else worship YHWH, the jealous, wrathful, vengeful, unforgiving, genocidal, anthropomorphic tribal god (Jesus' father) created by Hebrews in their image and likeness. Omnipotent, omniscient YHWH promises Hebrews that they alone shall inherit the earth, that it is commendable to steal from Gentiles, better yet — kill them. Whereas Gentiles, if they fail to worship YHWH, are transported straight to Hell. And it is written, 'A little child shall lead them.' These dangerous, imbecilic, concepts, tenets, and teachings, often treasonous, DESTROYED the Roman Empire and drenched the soil of Europe with Aryan blood for almost 2000 years!"

According to writer Kathy Shaidle at Examiner.com, von Brunn left a trail of "unhinged" writings.

"The anti-Semitism of von Brunn is the first thing one notices when visiting these bizarre websites. However, like those of most 'white supremacists,' many of von Brunn's political views track 'Left' rather than 'Right.' Clearly, a re-evaluation of these obsolete definitions is long overdue," she wrote.

Von Brunn, for example, hated both President George H.W. Bush as well as George W. Bush, and the writer confirmed his posting "reveals a hatred of, say, big corporations that is virtually indistinguishable from that of anti-globalization activists."

"None of this will surprise readers of Jonah Goldberg's bestseller 'Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Change,' which clearly demonstrates that 'fascism' of the kind advocated by the British National Party (BNP) and the likes of James W. von Brunn is just as likely to reflect 'leftwing' views as 'rightwing' ones," Shaidle wrote.

She noted anti-Semitism, in fact, is something the "New Left" and the "Far Right" have had in common since the 1980s.

"That this shooting occurred shortly after President Obama's former mentor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, blamed 'the Jews' for his lack of access to his former parishioner is a troubling confluence of events as well," she wrote.

She wrote that von Brunn clearly was "deeply confused," but isn't the "mainstream conservative and/or rightwinger currently being depicted on leftwing blogs and by liberal commentators."

"In short, von Brunn's connection with conservative thought and action today – be it talk radio or 'tea parties' – is tenuous. Those trying to puff up such 'connections' are acting in bad faith, out of blind partisanship – of the sort which is as corrosive to the health of the body politic as von Brunn's own b[l]atherings," Shaidle wrote.

On the Examiner forum page, the assessments on von Brunn ran along similar paths:

* The man is a lunatic irrespective of ideology.

* This loon is now responsible for the same number of dead as Teddy Kennedy is!

* The guy is a nut, as was the abortion [doctor] killer, and the Army recruiter killer. There is extremism across the political spectrum. Have you ever heard that stereotyping people can be unhealthy and even dangerous, and something I hope we discourage in this liberal society.

Author Jame Glazov, whose book "United in Hate: The Left's Romance With Tyranny and Terror," is a rising star, also has examined the links between the left and tyranny.


Glazov, who is managing editor of Frontpagemag, wrote, "As history shows, leftist beliefs have spawned mass carnage and misery. Put into practice, they have caused the deaths of millions. Until now, it has been extremely difficult for rational people who value personal freedom to understand the motivations of those who live in comfort and yet embrace monstrous dictators, ideologies, and policies that leave only death and destruction in their wake."

Glazov in his book "presents startling new insights into the toxic beliefs and torturously contorted thought processes of the leftists who lust to destroy the very freedoms that allow them to exist."

Glazov, a refugee from the Soviet Union, contends there is an unholy alliance between jihadists and people such as Michael Moore, Sean Penn, Ted Turner and Noam Chomsky. At the heart of the mutual admiration, he says, is a willingness to accept massive numbers of deaths to achieve their objectives.

What's bound to be most infuriating to those Americans and many other westerners mentioned in the book is the way Glazov uses their own words to make the point.

"Not only do I think it's possible [a Muslim-leftist alliance] but I think it is vitally necessary and I think it is happening already," explains leftist British lawmaker George Galloway. "It is possible because the progressive movement around the world and the Muslims have the same enemies. Their enemies are the Zionist occupation, American occupation, British occupation of poor countries, mainly Muslim countries."

Von Brunn is actually a left wing nut...Imagine that?


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 Post subject: Re: Darwin-loving museum shooter hates Bible, Christians
PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:13 am 
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That was a pitiful attempt at distorting the truth CS.

Brunn was a Right Wing gun enthusiast, the classic white supremist, and he blamed his Christian brothers for losing their gene pool through intermarriage with blacks. Brunn believed the Jews conspired to create equal rights for blacks and other non-white people. Brunn believed the Jews are taking over the world.

Limbaugh is also trying to cover his butt by spewing Right Wing lies. Rush says Brunn was a "leftist". But we all know who is who and for what purpose in their Right Wing hate speech, don't we CS. The U.S. has changed over the last few years, and those in the Klan, those in the white supremist groups, those in all the little bitty splintered groups, have lost their white power to that of equal rights for all citizens of these united states. What you're seeing today in the likes of Brunn and Roeder is the last vintages of what was once a super power of racism in America but now gone with the wind. No one wants to tolerate murder of innocent people anymore. I know you enjoyed it while it lasted, but now it's time for you and your party of hate crimes to be put on notice. The Right Wing party can be held legally responsible for inciting men to murder people. I think the Klannish members have been exposed yet again and even Jesus can't be used to defend them.

I'm looking forward to seeing the many lawsuits that will shut the mouth of the Right Wing idiots.


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 Post subject: Re: Darwin-loving museum shooter hates Bible, Christians
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btw CS. Republicans don't seem to know who is representing their Right Wing party. Imagine that.. and imagine why. :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Darwin-loving museum shooter hates Bible, Christians
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Roselyn wrote:
That was a pitiful attempt at distorting the truth CS.

Brunn was a Right Wing gun enthusiast, the classic white supremist, and he blamed his Christian brothers for losing their gene pool through intermarriage with blacks. Brunn believed the Jews conspired to create equal rights for blacks and other non-white people. Brunn believed the Jews are taking over the world.

Limbaugh is also trying to cover his butt by spewing Right Wing lies. Rush says Brunn was a "leftist". But we all know who is who and for what purpose in their Right Wing hate speech, don't we CS. The U.S. has changed over the last few years, and those in the Klan, those in the white supremist groups, those in all the little bitty splintered groups, have lost their white power to that of equal rights for all citizens of these united states. What you're seeing today in the likes of Brunn and Roeder is the last vintages of what was once a super power of racism in America but now gone with the wind. No one wants to tolerate murder of innocent people anymore. I know you enjoyed it while it lasted, but now it's time for you and your party of hate crimes to be put on notice. The Right Wing party can be held legally responsible for inciting men to murder people. I think the Klannish members have been exposed yet again and even Jesus can't be used to defend them.

I'm looking forward to seeing the many lawsuits that will shut the mouth of the Right Wing idiots.


Even in the face of what he wrote on his website, you still insist that he is a right wing
fascist. I'm no longer surprised at your hate filled tantrums. He is a darwinist, hates the
Bible, Christians, and Jews. (hmm..does that remind me of someone?). Ok. I'll concede
that your not a darwinist. Your are an alienist.

Anytime that someone exposes the left wing nuts for what they are; against all logic, evidence and commonsense, an apologist for the socialists denies it, and then attacks
with brainless blather. It has to be in some handbook that is passed out. Deny everything
and smear anyone that disagrees with your worldview.

It's getting old Ros, maybe you can take up knitting or something less stressful to your
brain.

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 Post subject: Re: Darwin-loving museum shooter hates Bible, Christians
PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:24 pm 
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Here's a curious factoid......

Von Brunn has had lots of Republican friends and supporters, but no Democratic friends and supporters.

Isn't that odd?

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 Post subject: Re: Darwin-loving museum shooter hates Bible, Christians
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CS is simply trying to smoothe over the fact that Brunn is a Right Wing extremist otherwise known as a white power advocate, and Limpbaugh fanatical ditto head. Brunn never claimed being in the leftist camp.

hey CS, have you been watching Palin act out for her slugty knocked-up daughter who produced a bastard for the Right Wing "dignity" and "grace" crowd? Gotta luv those Right Wing Palin family values, NOT! I have never laughed so much in how Palin is performing her hypocrisy. While Limbaugh and others in the far Right Wing are calling Obama a bastard - they don't seem to realize where the real illegitimacy is. :lol: :lol: :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Darwin-loving museum shooter hates Bible, Christians
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Did you ever wander that when [edited for inflammatory speech] Tiller was murdered, King Obama immediately went on
television and condemned it? As he should, but when a muslim murdered that soldier in front of
an army recruiting station, Obama was silent. Still haven't heard from him. Nor have we heard from the
bleeding heart liberals who were so outraged that three terrorists were waterboarded. Both were on
national news, but not a squeak from the White House. Was the family of Tiller more important than the
family of that soldier? Seems that he was. What do you think is going to happen when Obama thinks
someone is more important than you?
You won't last long enough to scream, "HAIL MASTER"...

He doesn't care about you, me or anyone else but himself..He's a Saul Alinsky socialist, and he is determined
to destroy America as fast as he can. And people like you are cheering him on.
You asked for it...and you will get it..

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America has already been pretty much destroyed by George W. Bush. Get a clue, CS.

And you need to investigate BEFORE you post right-wing propaganda like this piece of crap article. It won't fly here.

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 Post subject: Re: Darwin-loving museum shooter hates Bible, Christians
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:lol: Crap is the Right Wing's middle name. They still haven't come up with anything to solve the problem they made. So they continue to dig themselves deeper into their black hole.

CS, you evidently don't like how our socialist government works to support our military and veterans, their families through socialist taxpayer dollars. You are evidently against our Social Security system and its aid to dependent families. Our socialist citizenry charities by which provide more voluntary health care and feeding/clothing/sheltering our citizens in America.

Well, you are free to withdraw from all these "socialist" goodies, go to the wilderness and become a hunter-gatherer. I'm sure, with all your knowledge you've accumulated for getting back to pioneer days you'd have no problem using herbs for your healthcare, and preserving meat you'd bag. You'd know how to fight off wild animals, take a bath in a cold mountain stream. Suffer willingly through pnemonia, or even malaria, heart attack or stroke. And I'm sure you could find a few people just like you to take with you. For to bury you if nothing else. :lol: So why don't you go to the wilderness and live out your convictions? Us bleeding heart atheists will stay and enjoy life right here.


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 Post subject: Re: Darwin-loving museum shooter hates Bible, Christians
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Mickey wrote:
America has already been pretty much destroyed by George W. Bush. Get a clue, CS.

And you need to investigate BEFORE you post right-wing propaganda like this piece of crap article. It won't fly here.


Mickey, Bush told Congress to keep an eye out for Freddie Mac and Fannie May. Barney
Frank says..."No, they are alright, no need to". Do you need info on that statement?
It's on the internet for all to see. Trillions of dollars worth of bad mortgages that were sold to foreign
countries that were passed off as "triple A" mortgages. The current financial crisis was caused
in part by the democratic congress. They wanted to loan money to people with no down
payment, and with less than favorable credit. That is a recipe for disaster, and that is
what happened. Congress makes laws, not the White House. Bush did make some bad
decisions, no doubt, but nothing compared to what Obama has done in the first six
months of his Admin. We have a democrat President with a democrat congress.

You say that I need to investigate before I post right-wing propaganda.
Does that go for Roselyn also with her left-wing propaganda? There is absolutely no
basis in fact about most of the things that she posts, and you know it. I realize that you tend to
lean left, but I did expect you to be fair. Posters on this forum automatically branded the killer of
Tiller as a right-wing fascist without any facts to back it up. I just assumed that you didn't care about facts. My bad..I won't make that mistake again.

Tiller was an late term abortionist. I'm sure you are aware of the procedure.
It doesn't justify his murder, nothing does. But, it does make me wonder why most people
on this forum have no problem with late term abortion.

Just sayin'...

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 Post subject: Re: Darwin-loving museum shooter hates Bible, Christians
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My "left wing" propaganda? I'm not associated with any left wing. Why? Because there is no left wing. You and your Right Wing haters, torturer's, and death cult made it all up. And your Right Wing created their own name of "Right Wing" as any of the party will tell you. It evolved out of "the Religious Right". You really should do your homework CS. Go all the way back to the 60's and you'll discover the Ku Klux Klan. All those white-is-right bible believing church going characters who had the power to kill, lynch, burn, bomb, and otherwise torture human beings, including children, were the Right Wing's ancestors.

No basis in fact of most things I post? I mostly post my opinion on such things as Sarah Palin's daughter getting "knocked-up". Sarah doesn't want her daughter's name to be dirtied. :lol: Sarah wants everyone to believe that her daughter Krystal was a virgin or something. You just can't handle bring out the truth about the Palin's , that's all. And you probably believe she is as pure as the driven snow. I really enjoy pointing out what a slutty character Krystal is, especially since Sarah Palin thinks it's ok to run ruff-shod over innocent people calling them "evildoers" and other vile names. Sarah judges but doesn't want to be judged herself. And I investigated before I threw out my opinion of Sarah Palin and her daughters having a bastard, the term of shame often thrown by the pious Christian Right Wing crowd in accusing other young women. Not to mention their viciousness in publically calling Hilary and her daughter Chelsea a bitch, and much worse terms thrown at Obama. And just yesterday Mechele being called the ancestor of monkeys by a South Carolina Right Wing Republican. And they claim their right to slurs and unkind remarks under free speech. Are you getting the picture CS?

btw, Roeder was a Right Wing extremist who was pumped-up by his peers to kill. He even said there were others like him who would do the same.


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I guess I've changed, Ros. I'm starting to enjoy your posts a little, sometimes.

The one above is a beauty because it makes me curious about something. Doesn't it stand to reason if there is right wing, that there should be something to left as well. If somebody made up the left wing (as you say), wouldn't the right wing be imaginary too? How can you say there is a right wing if there is no left wing?

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I'll tell you why I have no problem with late term abortions or any other birth control method. The laws provide that freedom that is none of my business. Want to change things? Then change first by teaching your Christians not to have abortions. According to what the bible says, the world outside of the body of Christ is none of your business. (I'm assuming you're calling yourself a Christian)


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 Post subject: Re: Darwin-loving museum shooter hates Bible, Christians
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MessengerBoy wrote:
I guess I've changed, Ros. I'm starting to enjoy your posts a little, sometimes.

The one above is a beauty because it makes me curious about something. Doesn't it stand to reason if there is right wing, that there should be something to left as well. If somebody made up the left wing (as you say), wouldn't the right wing be imaginary too? How can you say there is a right wing if there is no left wing?


:lol: As I said, the Right Wing labeled themselves. They then had the bright idea to label others who disagreed with them as "the left". Now they have gone further and we have "centrists", those in the middle, much like agnostics who can't make up their mind.


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Obviously, the spectrum is skewed.

It will never be fixed.

Pax!
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